[–]CantStopTheRob 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). Subreddit vs Subreddit posts or other posts looking to get a rise out of other online communities (Tumblr, 4chan, etc, etc). I think team 2 can take it mainly because of Jiren. Since LSSJ Broly is on Beerus' level, then yeah, SSJB Gogeta would have a win here. Anime-wise, he could have been surpassed (well, he has by Jiren and UI Goku but I meant by Goku Blue Kaio-ken x20/Vegeta Blue Evolution) or he could simply be 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger than he is right now, we simply just don't know. Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta vs Ultra Instinct Goku. [Star Wars]General Grevious is made out of pure Beskar. remember the diffrence between ssj 3 goku and ssjg goku? re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote GohanAntifan93 Gogeta Blue > Super Saiyan Full Power Broly > Super Saiyan Gogeta >Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku > Jiren > Ultra Instinct Goku Regardless, Jiren has far better showings imo. Disruptive gimmick accounts will be first warned then removed. and join one of thousands of communities. Beerus is undoubtedly weaker than Jiren and Goku and Gogeta is hard to gauge where he would place. [–]Jamano-Eridzander 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). Whis makes another statement in the anime saying that Mastering Ultra Instinct would result in Goku/ Vegeta surpassing Beerus. And we've seen him do it with extreme ease. Yes. VIEW OLDER REPLIES. Honestly, there's no reason not to believe him entirely, he was talking seriously about the matter. See this post for details. that statement was replaced by beerus was " What an Unbelievable guy", so if beerus is in mui goku level and that goku defeated jiren than its pretty obvious that beerus> jiren. Apologies go a long way if you mess up. Beerus shouted. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Don't downvote. See more ideas about dragon ball, dragon ball z, gogeta and vegito. Beerus' Hakai won't be landing on both Goku and Jiren cause of their massively superior reaction speeds. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed save the entire DBS Multiverse from jeopardy. [–]armchair_science 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). and how Goku said full power Broly is “maybe” stronger than Beerus. Broly didn’t reach full power until his fight with SSJ Gogeta. I could see team 1 taking Gogeta against Goku and Jiren agaisnt Beerus. unknowingly downplay. Check out our Official Submission Template for a few suggestions on how you can structure your battle with additional conditions and formatting to make it more interesting. Jiren sacrificed and sacrificed every year, more and more of himself. [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child). Ultra Instinct. We issue warnings if we believe the user means well but we are not obligated to do so. @takenstew22: Considering Vegeta alone is stronger than Toppo. It would be weird and inconsistent if he weren't stronger than Beerus. MUI runs out quite fast. I was using the manga because of the movie's odd continuity including them both. [–]Goku4869 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (0 children). If you do not properly flair your post, or reply incorrectly to a post because you didn't know the difference between 'Battle' and 'Scan-Battle', you agree to forfeit to us your soul in perpetuity or another soul of equal or greater value. The only way to prove it is by comparing the power up diffrences. I think beerus and gogeta overpower jiren as he tries to tank something and they eventually tag Goku. For more information click here. Goku said Broly is probably stronger than Beerus during their final meeting. Sure it's not actually happened by anyone other than Zeno, but TOP Goku scales so far above SSG Goku that it would be a little ridiculous to assume he isn't capable of it. Do Goku or Jiren have a counter to Hakai? So I’ll ask again in case I wasn’t being clear last time do you have any feats that suggest that Beerus is capable of erasing the likes of SSB Gogeta? A full powered MUI Goku might be an annoyance but Beerus just needs to outlast him. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. Not to mention, that Beerus would need to go through Whis, Zeno's guards, then the Grand Priest before he'd even have a chance to face off against Zeno. Remember, the mods are humans, and we realize you're human, too. UI Goku and Jiren should be above Beerus as of now due to current statements, but Borly was hyped to be stronger than Jiren in promotional material, and he has the feats to back him being Jiren tier up, and Gogeta has the clear advantage over him. Assuming unlimited fusion time, I'm going team 1. and gogeta blue is without a doubt the STRONGEST one here FAR. Jiren before he went Limit Breaker was already stronger than Belmod, who might not be as strong as Beerus, but it still says alot. Try outlining arenas, special conditions, multiple rounds and specifying the universe/version of characters if you're looking for a good discussion. He was even ready to erase Goku at one point, without the need to even power up. [–]Galaxy_Megatron 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (13 children). it was referring mui with the text being " Gokus hair and aura starts to glow SILVER. [–]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). Comments consisting of a single image or gif to provoke drama or as a non-responsive reply to the thread. Even Beerus can’t get Ultra Instinct correctly. I didn't read the Manga yet so I can't say anything about this. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. 483. Though Gogeta probably has more raw power. 0. He has got serious in the anime a few times (only when fighting with Champa) but we have never even been given a reference or a hint to anywhere near his full power. After all Beerus needs to be more powerful Gogeta for Gogeta to be unable to resist his hakai. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. It was confirmed that Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than the Gods of Destruction including Beerus Wrong. Distasteful posts for the sake of being "edgy". 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attacks 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) detonates that character has two different lines. @takenstew22: Considering Vegeta alone is stronger than Toppo, and how Goku said full power Broly is “maybe” stronger than Beerus, and how Beerus was finessing multiple gods of destruction at once in the manga, I would say it’s fairly obvious. MUI Goku vs Gogeta. Instead of the GoD battle royale, the anime had an exhibition match between the two weakest universes, U7 and U9 (the one with the dog trio). Your post will get automatically removed if it is not flaired. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. There’s no actual evidence that Belmod is stronger than Beerus aside from Whis joking to which Beerus replied it was only an arm wrestle, there’s also no timescale for that and could have been when Beerus was a younger GoD and not as strong. Zeno is a being who can erase all of existence in the blink of an eye. A.Whis is way more powerful than Beerus is. As for MUI Goku and SSB Gogeta I think MUI Goku can take it because of his speed and reaction time which is pretty much the best we've seen in Dragon Ball yet. The penalty for breaking the rules of this sub, contributing to spam, trolling, or purposefully making things more difficult for the mods may include being banned. Going by your logic Beerus should be able to erase all of them so that shouldn’t be an issue for him. Well, Kefla was struggling with regular UI Goku. Ssj vegito was massively stronger than potential unleashed Gohan. This is not headcanon, we have statements that matter here. Fusion is generally> the strongest non fused character. Team 2 still wins. Hakai was never used on frieza or goku it was just a small ammount of GoD energy that was overcome. Team 1. If you're going to repost try to broaden or change the discussion to keep it fresh. [–]Jamano-Eridzander 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). @sup3rn0va: what makes jiren stronger than beerus? He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. [–]KingPWNinater 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (5 children). Is there anything new from DBS after ToP and the Broly/Gogeta movie? SSJB Gogeta is only “possibly stronger than Beerus”Tries citing a movie that doesn't have complete 100% compatibility with neither the Anime nor Manga and doesn't even get the fact right; it was Broly, not Gogeta. Well, at least in the anime but if the power of the two people fighting is comparable, it will still work, as shown when Goku used it on Zamasu (Goku's hakai is inferior to Beerus's one too). "Fusion. Then Goku is pretty much dead. All posts must be flaired. Those two are fodder to even Base Gogeta let alone SSB Gogeta. The only thing ultra instinct has over beerus is speed and the auto dodge hax, even then jiren was able to bypass that for a moment due to his strength being absolute and all that shit. we know that jiren is stronger than belmod but even belmod is weaker than beerus, it wouldn't be right to say jiren would also be stronger than beerus. while UI‘s boost was huge , it seems ppl are simply to slow to realize how huge the fusion boost was in the movie. He wasn't even scared by Broly's power, to the point where he just chilled with Bulla all day. It's really simple. 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